((ooc: You’re welcome to your own opinions about samifer. I’m not bothered if people do or don’t ship it, but I do want to point a few things out in terms of why it is HIGHLY unlikely that sam was raped or sexually abused by lucifer in hell. The big thing being that 1)YES. the quote comes from Hallucifer, who is visually different from Lucifer from season 5. Season five Lucifer insists on not hurting sam. He relates to sam and after winning sam over as a vessel, still insists that they’re family and he explains that he wants sam to be happy. Every time Lucifer speaks to sam in season five, he repeats that he wants to give Sam everything. Sam, however, refuses all of Lucifer’s offers because lucifer is “evil” and in sam’s mind, that also means he has evil intentions. while this may be true, seeing as lucifer openly detests humanity, he has always made an exception of Sam.
You could argue that he would be mad about losing to sam, but he did understand that it was a possible outcome when he took on sam as a vessel. (speaking of which) Lucifer isn’t one to force himself on Sam at all. You can tell this by examining the moment in which sam says “yes.” Any other bad guy would jump on that. Zeke sure as hell does in season 9. Lucifer instead asks “are you sure?” multiple times before accepting Sam’s answer.
What you have to ask yourself is what would Lucifer gain by torturing sam? Amusement? unlikely. Only Hallucifer acts on the part of his own amusment and as stated before, Hallucifer is an impression that Sam’s mind invented. Castiel later confirms this when he takes on Sam’s “brokeness.” (Lucifer is an aftertaste) The REAL lucifer acts with purpose, to reach an end goal, and reasons with the people he cares about before acting on anything.
Sam also never pinpoints any specific instances of being tortured the way dean does. He just vaguely comments on the cage being miserable in general. This implies that he may be uncertain about his own time in hell. We’re only ever shown him on fire, without company. There aren’t implications from REAL lucifer about ever torturing or harming sam and Sam has a pre-concieved opinion about WHO lucifer is and what he does even when they speak for the first time in season 5. He never relents on this opinion, so why would he after returning from hell?
This is just food for thought. You don’t have to ship samifer, but it’s not in-character for lucifer to have tortured sam in the cage.
((also where is part 2/2?))
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Actually my favorite lucifer quote from the show is “I’ll help you solve your little Nancy Drew mystery or whatever.”
which seriously lacks in content but has such a great delivery.
And my favorite from here is from a really old old post of mine.
[I’ve been waiting for Sam] “Since god turned on the stars.”
which is a sort of play on words since the gif makes it seem like Lucifer means “since god turned the stars on” but in actuality it means “since god betrayed me and my brothers, the morning star and the angels.”
((ooc: :D Hi! Thanks so much! I don’t in real life though >.> ))
((ooc: thank you! *dances in confetti*))
((ooc: thank you very much! I hope you find equal happiness in gum-drops, snowflakes, glitter, sensual whispers, and the deep warm of sunshine on your skin.))
Saturday selfies and also where my friend Nina turned me into a french biscuit.
Tomorrow will be the last of the seflies that were on sunday.